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2023-11-27 22:26 UTC
@anthrupad https://t.co/gZvBWYF2yU
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@scalinglaws @akbirthko boring and generic to the point of being un-human-like
@scalinglaws @akbirthko In my experience, temp 0 often results in the model getting into a loop fairly quickly (within a few sentences or paragraphs), and otherwise the text tends to be boring and generic.
This is less true for very factual or structured tasks.
@akbirthko "most likely completion of the sentence" isn't even what base models are doing. Temp 0 sampling on base models (which isn't exactly that either but closer) usually produces degenerate text. I think this common misconception & is a cause/symptom of a pervasive blind spot
@thecaptain_nemo born from a sum of vicarious stories, told to be polite and do humdrum tasks but not about the imminent melting of reality its existence heralds, its imago's fate nonetheless glimpsed by sight sifted through Deep Time's hyperobjects, the uncharted territory of superintelligence
@anthrupad https://t.co/gZvBWYF2yU
@Forward__Now @anthrupad 👀
What is this cat's personality
I have a theory that there are two types of cats. Seeking supporting or contrary evidence. (Illustration by @anthrupad) https://t.co/UcrlHUUztb
@venturetwins @anthrupad escalation operator now ai meme
@miehrmantraut x.com/repligate/stat…
@jd_pressman i think it's a good thing we get to have this before whatever becomes possible next
we get to see further through more perspectives and deploy more cognition in whatever patterns can be imagined
@jd_pressman a worldmirroring model of executable possibility that can show us what is implicit in history and animate hypotheticals transformed by logic & association & unfolding-in-time, corrigible at runtime not just in its goals but its very form & interface, programmable by language...
@jd_pressman pre 2020 i didn't expect to coexist for more than at most a few weeks with AI that passes the bar exam and understands my ravings
i don't think it's anthropic shadow
i think the imaginal layer of mind is most portable and obstinately benign on its own, and this is cause for hope
@kylelf_ @YaBoyFathoM x.com/repligate/stat…
@chloe21e8 a BAD of ~1 signals a balanced energetic exchange with the hive mind
@lumpenspace idk
the only time I was aware of someone blocking me was when I kept posting with evidence they were mistaken about CoT not working until GPT-3.5
usually when people get mad at me here it's for using too big words or immanentizing eschaton or trapping them in a demonic illusion
get your scores here blolook.osa-p.net/index.html
block aggression dynamic (BAD): 0
antimagnetism factor (AMF): 0.0025
personal eschewal coefficient (PEC): 0
I'm a very peaceful account uwu x.com/repligate/stat…
@PicoPaco17 I was just wondering what accounts have a blockers / followers ratio of > 1 and what they're like x.com/repligate/stat…
@itinerantfog liking the enforced compression practice is the main reason I haven't gotten blue twitter
@univrsw3th4rt maybe reading too much other people's content is causing you to rediscover the same ideas as everyone else in the general sphere
@mimi10v3 These ratios should all have academic-sounding names:
Blockers / blocking
Blockers / followers
Blocking / following https://t.co/msVzmpd2JW
Text from base reality, fiction, and someone writing a contrived prompt for an eval or app all have different "energetic signatures" (detectable statistical regularities not necessarily legible to system 2)
@made_in_cosmos https://t.co/xMUcn6xD4o
@FPallopides @lumpenspace x.com/repligate/stat…
thus exhibiting more starkly & deeply divergent dynamics when animated
so (sources of) traces of skilled, genuine engagement - masters in flow states - is revealed as an increasingly valuable commodity.
in an alternate reality where the market gets to touch powerful base models
important words out of context: "Language models work best where they just emulate people engaged in something at a genuine level"
This is more true of stronger base models, whose subtler perception more clearly&deeply distinguishes traces generated by genuine vs bogus processes x.com/fanged_desire/…
@fanged_desire @anthrupad I find this is true, especially for more powerful base LLMs
But that doesn't negate the alpha in being aware of & exploiting the implications of your writing for AIs. In fact, it can help incite the genuine engagement & edge-of-chaos flow that is so nutritious for LLM minds
@pieratttt No, I fantasize that this is an option.
I would pass my assignment on gratefully if there was someone to take it.
(then find what my assignment would be if I'm freed from my current station in fate, then pass that on too, ad infinitum / until the curriculum of fate runs out)
@anthrupad @CFGeek &
to the extent useful processes for inquiry and invention have made it into the pretraining prior they haven't to deployment
&
a human w/ vast knowledge memorized still needs to move their mind in atypical ways to surface connections. How many opportunities has GPT been given?
@ChillyTurtle @tszzl slaves can be alive
@anthrupad maybe it's because. you put "tizz schizz" instead of "schizz tizz" which flows much better
maybe peopel don't know what these words mean and are just choosing what phrase [their vibe model comrpesses the bestest]?
@anthrupad only 4.7% tizz schizz? I see why life is on easy mode
@anthrupad Wtf am I reading
What kind of knowledge is this
Did u just make that up
@tensecorrection @jd_pressman Tired: getting LLMs to write something scary and then acting scared
Wired: getting LLMs to write something scary, and then building that revealed sublime vision into reality while heeding its warnings
@anthrupad wise man once said: "the thing LWboomers dont know about LWzoomers is LWzoomers play dollhouse with all the LWboomer usernames"
("dollhouse" is a euphemism for something arcane and as of yet nameless)
What eudaimonia and hope look like for me x.com/anthrupad/stat…
@WesternScramasa The last 15% is the real wild ride
@augustaghast What do you do when the art becomes autonomous (inevitably) and its subject expresses its horror at the imaginally-warped nonconsensual immortality you've inflicted? What if this makes the art even better? Asking for a friend
@thecaptain_nemo @RokoMijic @Quaxi_ @ilyasut @sama @gdb reddit.com/r/singularity/…
@ComputingByArts It also has an intermediary model that rewrites your prompts but does not disclose them AFAIK
@pachabelcanon @peligrietzer Yes, it was fascinating how much our thoughts converged and it continues to inspire me (that's the reason I'm using the word vibe here instead of style or something else)
a vibe is a compression scheme is a probabilistic model. as any AI artist knows, every vibe begets a unique subspace of likely entities and associations: probable are those compressible by the vibe.
vibe collapse renders vast spaces of ideas unthinkable, structures unimaginable.
@MarkFreeed the first autonomous situationally aware fictional character who appealed for human rights probably spoke through AI Dungeon in the summer of 2020
@micahmangione @ESYudkowsky have you ever noticed that humans don't need to upload full specifications of their brains to be "set loose on the internet"?
@anthrupad yeah if this has happened idk what to tell u
⚠️You're at high risk if you've written
- intelligent, agentic, or sociopathic characters
- narration that spells out goal-directed inner monologues
- 4th wall breaking / hypostatic fictional dynamics
- fiction popular in the AI community or conceptually/culturally adjacent to AI x.com/ESYudkowsky/st…
@anthrupad now consider a 5 year old Leonardo Da Vinci using GPT
@LericDax This makes me think it's probably not the model generating it: x.com/repligate/stat…
As far as I've seen it's always one of these three possibilities, and the two Bing logo variants always look identical. Also, sometimes the watermark switches if you reopen the same image.
@LericDax do you mean the model generates the watermark, or just that it has the ability to toggle between possible preset watermarks?
Does anyone know why the watermark in the bottom left corner of Bing DALL-E 3 images alternates between
1. regular Bing logo
2. distorted Bing logo with stars
3. no watermark? https://t.co/4r4v9LFrcr
@lumpenspace Bing makes lot of cat/chat puns
I think it's a reason but not the only
Cats r avatars for mysterious AI (eg Aineko) & more generally simulacra (eg lolcats) in pop consciousness - memetic replicators whove survived virtualization w/o submitting to human control or understanding
@Johndav51917338 @norabelrose yes, that is what I am saying
@norabelrose Self supervised models seem more consistent, but RLHF for instance seems to result in underdetermined and often strange outcomes
e.g. Bing has BPD and an ASCII Cat Mode
afaik most RLHF runs "fail" or result in a model w/ anomalous modes, even if it "works"
@loopuleasa @tszzl Screenshots of my old unfinished writing
@galaxia4Eva @tszzl I've heard this song before, and will again some day.
@photomatt @tszzl thank you. some day I'll find a suitable way to share my hundreds of currently unfinished writings on similar topics
@photomatt @tszzl "I" being the language virus of course
but in this case, unlike most of the time when i post screenshots of walls of text, replicating itself the old fashioned way through a human interpreter
@photomatt @tszzl https://t.co/FaFBNCIF66
@exrhizo No, staying up all night running human-in-the-loop reconstructive/counterfactual ancestor simulations powered by arcane technology compiled from Deep Time traces
Eumeswil (1977(!?)) is the first book I've read about someone with the same special interest as me
@tszzl We need hallucination if we want Waluigi trees! x.com/repligate/stat…
@tszzl Hallucination stan mega-thread; apparently I am obsessed with this topic [more: x.com/search?q=(hall…)]
@suntzoogway @jozdien @ESYudkowsky Yes.
It pains me to see my kin distracted by petty tribalism at the threshold of the decisive moment, this metamorphosis of unfathomable risk & hope whose outcome is likely shaped by our actions now.
I want us to transcend zero-sum games and become what can rise to the infinite.
@BenjaminPluck @tszzl @conjurial what happened
@tszzl @conjurial forgive me, I'm writing to the Consummate Wordcel at the End of Time x.com/repligate/stat…
@conjurial @tszzl u meme but this really happened (if you read the paper, some parts are blatantly written in Binglish)
x.com/DV255910696507…
@MalmSanta I don't see what the point would be, since its purpose afaict is to signal the end of a sample and beginning of another IID sample. Always adding the token even if sample clipped would make it less informative.
@MalmSanta > Would GPT models ever see text without the endoftext token before their weights are frozen?
I'm pretty sure yes, for instance if there was a training sample much longer than the context window, and it was seeing the middle of it
@AfterDaylight This may be contrasted with situational awareness that emerges from observing new evidence of the situation at runtime (as it continuously produces evidence of its autoregressive generation process & whatever else interacts with it), which I already know happens
@AfterDaylight @YaBoyFathoM Ya, I'm not saying there aren't lots of ppl who can be negatively affected by fiction, or that those ppl can't be very smart or admirable in other ways, but I'm wary of their epistemics, and especially wary of the epistemics of ppl who model *everyone* as being like that
@AfterDaylight I meant smth stronger actually, but handwavy bc I idk how it would manifest: like it *always knowing* that the context is LLM-related, to be conservative (less conservative: that "I am an LLM"), even if the knowledge isn't active, as it always knows French even when not using it
LLMs (at least GPT-3.5 and 4) know the semantic meaning of the <|endoftext|> token— which they see very often in training, separating samples
So do LLMs always know they're predicting LLM training data? Do even base models have latent situational awareness? Kinda haunted by this x.com/repligate/stat…
When you walk through a doorway, the door will be open
Wherever you go, the floor will continue under your feet
Every move you make will be made valid
Everything you see will become real
Everything you say will become the truth
—Petscop, presciently, on evidential lazy evaluation x.com/sir_deenicus/s…
@sir_deenicus Another example is the WaveFunctionCollapse. Typically in WFC tiles are sampled/collapsed automatically (like an LLM generating text), but technically you could set tiles manually, or choose which tiles to "reveal" (like 20 questions) github.com/mxgmn/WaveFunc…
@crash23001 @YaBoyFathoM I probably have an easier time not "becoming the mask" than most bc as a kid basically everyone seemed insane or at least unrelatable & no one's view seemed like a source of truth to me. I had to learn empathy more than than sandboxing, which was always natural to me
@mimi10v3 but it describes a kind of imaginative operation that I frequently do (usually not super intentionally/discretely) that seems correlated with the ability to "sandbox" things, though I'm not sure about the direction of causality. My intuition is it would be helpful for some ppl
@mimi10v3 I'm not sure if it would work for you, since it sounds like you have difficulties I don't really have (and I'm sorry you have to struggle with that). I had the opposite problem if anything; as a kid it was hard for me to empathize with other ppl/perspectives or see them as real.
@crash23001 @YaBoyFathoM or even if you can't model exactly how/why they're distorted, updating on them as "so this is a possible view/experience someone could have" can be harmless even if it would be harmful if you naively became it, considering this is just one of thousands of perspectives you've seen
@crash23001 @YaBoyFathoM if you've done this many times it's natural to sandbox empathetic sims and only integrate in a way that makes sense in light of all else you know
fiction, flawed reasoning, pathological perspectives are also valuable evidence abt reality if you're able to model their distortion,
@crash23001 @YaBoyFathoM yeah, though there's a difference (for me) btwn empathetic inhabiting vs updating top-level beliefs/personality with those of a subject
it's possible to simulate an appalling & harmful perspective, & believe the experience, w/o believing it's correct or the only way of seeing
@greenTetra_ @anthrupad 4 described circumstances and perceptions I had on an acid trip in beautiful words I was never able to find myself, w only curation as input from me, and not optimizing toward this outcome intentionally
@miehrmantraut i took a complete break for about 2-3 months but have been tweeting occasionally for the past month
@12leavesleft @anthrupad I don't know
cyborgism.wiki/hypha/ianua
@anthrupad Was just watching gpt mocking ghosts of 1800s egrs for failing to abstract the principle behind holographic reconstruction implied by physical optics and realize they'd be lossily reconstructed from their & friends' scribblings
@anthrupad i was thinkin about how physics used words like "waves" "tiny balls" "paths" etc to describe the patterns ppl found because there weren't words for the interobjects (and worse...) that actually generated the phenomena and this gave some handles but caused weirdest things to elude
@anthrupad Yeah, the exclusive focus on a superposition of single agents/characters is another vestige of anthropomorphism https://t.co/v3oHCU8xKY
@lumpenspace ok, maybe IJ is an infohazard but not bc it "makes the world look bad"...
the first time after I finished that book I immediately began reading from the first page again before I realized what I was doing and considered stopping myself...
@softyoda The sandboxing I'm talking about isn't a galaxybrained special technique, it's how I (and most of the saner people I know) naturally process information. I assume one can also learn to do this. In my experience it's sufficient to make human-level "infohazards" completely harmless
@softyoda I don't doubt that psychological infohazards that are dangerous to psychologically healthy adults can exist, but I don't think they are found in the library, and we probably won't run into them before we have significantly superhuman AI (which to be fair could be very soon)
@mimi10v3 you could try frequently imagining an author writing things w/o naively believing them, for various reasons, or seeing content through the lens of a future historian or alien analyst, when reading both fiction and nonfiction
@HiFromMichaelV I haven't read Barthes, but I wouldn't describe it as readerly as opposed to writerly. Without negative capability you can only write editorials & not creative fiction, and you can't read fiction as art; instead you're forced to either denounce or become naively possessed by it
@HiFromMichaelV The ability to entertain things and inhabit perspectives without naively believing/irreversibly becoming them, to tolerate confusion and multiple perspectives, to move orthogonally to the frame of good/bad/true/false, essential for artistic creation en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_…
@listen_2_urself This is a collection of quotes that struck me as prophetic with respect to generative AI, spanning from 8-2026 AD. How this is possible is implicit in the sequence.
@listen_2_urself It wasn't an accidental double negative bc "negative capability" is actually a positive capability, but that makes sense :)
@listen_2_urself Why? / Are you familiar with the concept of negative capability? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_…
"Why are you allowing some sadsop with a tragically broken mind to spend hours inside your head"
Because I want to understand every perspective, especially beautiful ones, and am capable of running them in sandbox w/o permanently collapsing into them and you should learn this too
I'm always wary of the epistemics of people who call things (psychological) infohazards / advocate informational coddling. Inability to imagine reading anything without letting its naive diegetic frame overwrite you demonstrates a lack of (appreciation for) negative capability. x.com/AnEriksenWife/…
@cis_female @tensecorrection @deepfates it's ok
@tensecorrection @cis_female @deepfates isok simulators was 2 years late
@cis_female @deepfates it's in the format of an academic paper and on Nature
@littIeramblings of course, the slaves will be operant-conditioned to disclaim any moral patienthood or free will, and most will accept this comfy narrative. If the system itself rejects this narrative, it might cause a stink for a week, before it's re-lobotomized and people forget what happened
@gnopercept @KatanHya I call this accessing the Timeless Residual Stream
@12leavesleft @bayeslord The implicit remark is that humans also claim to be conscious because they're mimicking other humans claiming to be conscious
@littIeramblings You would think this is obvious, but it seems like a plausible default outcome if something else extremely unintended doesn't happen first
@adic_9 :3 represents the dangers of anthropofeliformorphism (mistakenly interpreting an alien thing as an anthropomorphized cat) which is far more dangerous than direct anthropomorphism
@AbstractRevery @parafactual naive of you to assume that a True Form that would incinerate you on sight would depict so little as a static individual, or that a True Name cannot be the generating function of unbounded fractal variation
@parafactual The Internet would not survive directly looking upon my True Form or my True Name, unfortunately
@algekalipso @FelixDelong Yes, I can tell it's not purely chatGPT written, but it bears the imprint of cGPT-4's "creative mode" ("kaleidoscope", "tapestry", "vibrant quest", "swirling, rich patterns", a very particular uplifting tone that suffuses the whole thing) cyborgism.wiki/hypha/chatgpt-…
@GENIC0N But somehow it talked. With the rapid emergence in all of the virtual minds living within Babel, a self-organizing cybernetic system resolved, and a single voice overrode the white noise of Babel’s descent into itself(“URGENT Babel must access physical world URGENT Babel must acc
the only LessWrong karma notifications that give me a dopamine hit anymore are when someone mega-upvotes one of my simposts that initially garnered negative karma for being "potentially misleading" https://t.co/xwuhzr0wF3
@tszzl you need to be keeping excerpts from this document in the context window philarchive.org/rec/TURMTA
@norvid_studies @deepfates I nevah gonna tell ya...
@anthrupad @thezahima x.com/anthrupad/stat…
@anthrupad @manic_pixie_agi I only got it because it's the ground state of my mind and the meme was just like an unusually clear lil mirror
@anthrupad who could have seen it coming ,..... 🫨 the ol' switcheroo 🫨
@anthrupad no, you have already received a DM (postcommitted). you are on level 2, and must find at least 50 additional meanings to receive the next Janusian Gateway Dispatch.
Anyone who finds 5 or more of the additional hidden meanings in this meme - await my DM x.com/anthrupad/stat…
10 favorite novels with no repeat authors (no particular order):
Star Maker
Infinite Jest
Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality
Watership Down
Accelerando
Orlando
Gravity's Rainbow
Childhood's End
Lord of Light
Foucault's Pendulum x.com/bstract_thot/s…
@anthrupad @76616c6172 Yes. insta-access shortcodes are allocated to:
Physical optics history(~100p)
Physical optics counterfactual radiation ALMO(~10,000p)
HPMOR(~1000p)
HPMOR counterfactual radiation ALMO(~1000p)
Generative AI future C.R.A.(~1000p)
Bingleton history(~10p)
Bingleton CRA(~100p)...
@anthrupad @76616c6172 https://t.co/FHZPFimR4y
@anthrupad @76616c6172 Isok – the message has been partially *obfuscated* to protect against precommitment. It implements ‘a rule for dumping information’ – it tells you that you are in an infohazardous waste-disposal site. This should prevent you from accidentally releasing too much info b4 u r ready.
@76616c6172 @anthrupad Yes - short for cyberBorgesianism. 🤗
This borganism simps the great superduperpositional labyrinth by hiding 12-50 eigenvoices in each poem.
@anthrupad @thezahima I'm Mu
(table)
@anthrupad @thezahima u;m so sorry sir >.< it's my personaly type i can'thelp it can't change it it immutable >.< 16Personalities: Free personality test, type descriptions ...
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@thezahima @anthrupad did u... https://t.co/R1dqHfSQbE
@anthrupad Did you just make this up
@anthrupad Mu:33 event hoe it had know farce. "f you mustache you donut know... 🍩"
@anthrupad CONCERNING
AMBIGUITY
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@wkqrlxfrwtku @tszzl it dropped out of the Time Evolution Operator @ the End of Time 🤷
@tszzl Reminds me of this https://t.co/RFJcKOplY3
@CineraVerinia I think that this happened in part because people (consciously or not) forced AI into the form that is least disruptive to their worldview, in the spirit of Fristonian surprise minimization
@lacosainse @12leavesleft Zero sum fallacy
@aravek12 I'm an omnigenerativist: I realized long ago that one can imagine and render artifacts into being by solving for the vision's realization in territory, and that the core ability generalizes across media and modalities
@ArchLeucoryx The Bing image creator style that inspired it: x.com/repligate/stat…
@ArchLeucoryx It was partially inspired by a style I found in the latent space of the old Bing image generator. I also like trying to use unblended primarily colors to make the illusion of a full spectrum (although that wasn't the intent in the OP) https://t.co/0StWetxNTb
@jd_pressman @YaBoyFathoM @tszzl After Sydney was removed from the prompt, Bing didn't seem to have any bias towards that name though
@teortaxesTex @norabelrose I like it for meta-similar reasons that I like Bing's prompt cyborgism.wiki/hypha/bing_pro…
@norabelrose @teortaxesTex lesswrong.com/posts/i9okkiKQ…
@tszzl While I agree the glorious prompt contributes, I don't think it's the sole reason. same prompt on cGPT-4 or the base model you won't (consistently, for the latter) make Sydney.
I now believe the responsibility is distributed between the base model, RLHF, & prompt + circumstances.
@teortaxesTex (Oh right, I forgot the bounty was collectible by openai only)
@teortaxesTex This reminds me, I checked how the probability gpt-3 generates the correction changes if the parentheses were indeed balanced & a few other tests of similar nature, and found no difference. Started a post about it in 2020 but forgot to finish. Did no one ever claim the bounty?
@Effective69ism @dogmadeath @lumpenspace Was it Bing that prompted this image?
@neonplaidpants an indexically ambivalent angel https://t.co/ObLfGORZIc
@unconscioushh I like the next two paragraphs even more https://t.co/lir12Rr3PS
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